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The so-called thing "he feel/you feels" sounds horrible indeed. But I can't see the "in/on/at" "thingy" sounding specially awkward unless ...

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    The so-called thing "he feel/you feels" sounds horrible indeed. But I can't see the "in/on/at" "thingy" sounding specially awkward unless you're a native speaker, and I assume you aren't. The fact that you've been able to achieve such a high level it's something a bit different. There are some examples, like "at tuesday", that does sound really bad, but if we talk about places or locations, managing to dominate those prepositions takes a lot of time. Let's notice that one is never "in the bed", but "in bed". Now why is that?
    Are you being sinister or is thissome form of practical joke? I'm trying to come to the point. I refuse to give up my obsession. America stop pushing I know what I'm doing. America the plum blossoms are falling. I haven't read the newspapers for months, everyday somebody goes on trial for murder. America I feel sentimental about the Wobblies. America I used to be a communist when I was a kid I'm not sorry. I smoke marijuana every chance I get. I sit in my house for days on end and stare at the roses in the closet. When I go to chinatown I get drunk and I never get laid. My mind is made up there's going to be trouble. You should have seen me reading Marx. My psychoanalyst thinks I'm perfectly right.

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    Because you are on the bed (a surface) or you are in bed (sleeping, for example).

    General uses for prepositions of place:

    on for surfaces

    at for points

    in for enclosed space

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    I've always been the worst referring to English prepositions . Agh, I'll never get accustomed to using them.



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    You mean get used to?


    You can't win anyway... You see, I hold the winning card!

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    Well, "in bed" is quite the same case as "at school" or "in prison", they're "usual" places (heh,maybe not prison, but anyway) and you skip the article.

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    Yes, Moai, you are right, but you can say: he is in prison, or he is in the prison. There is a difference in meaning.

    By the way, should I say: there is a difference in meaning, or there is a difference in "the" meaning?. I always get confused with articles.

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    I believe you've got to say/write it, since I haven't heard it the other way.

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    Tomás de Torquemada escribió: Ver mensaje
    You mean get used to?
    I think it's the same. Get used to = get accustomed to. At least since my English teacher taught it to me.



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    It is the same indeed. In fact I've seen way more often "get used to it" than "get accustomed to". ^^ But maybe the latter is really common in the UK? It sounds kind of faggish.

    Dean Moriarty escribió: Ver mensaje
    The so-called thing "he feel/you feels" sounds horrible indeed. But I can't see the "in/on/at" "thingy" sounding specially awkward unless you're a native speaker, and I assume you aren't. The fact that you've been able to achieve such a high level it's something a bit different.
    Not so dude. Listen, I can deal with the fact that for many Spaniards "getting a cold" is the same than "getting constipated", but the use of articles is something elementary. They are something that sound really bad when not used properly unless you didn't get through the elementary level.

    There are some examples, like "at tuesday", that does sound really bad, but if we talk about places or locations, managing to dominate those prepositions takes a lot of time. Let's notice that one is never "in the bed", but "in bed". Now why is that?

    Why? Because you only use "the" when you mean to specify. It's really something basic.

    But even when it's confusing you quickly should be able to switch to the correct form. See:

    A-I'll wait for you in bed.
    B-Which one?
    A-In the bed from the basement.

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    Thanks for the useful example Hole That makes it a lot easier. However, in/on/at are not articles but prepositions, and their usage is not taught quite widely in the elementary level.
    Are you being sinister or is thissome form of practical joke? I'm trying to come to the point. I refuse to give up my obsession. America stop pushing I know what I'm doing. America the plum blossoms are falling. I haven't read the newspapers for months, everyday somebody goes on trial for murder. America I feel sentimental about the Wobblies. America I used to be a communist when I was a kid I'm not sorry. I smoke marijuana every chance I get. I sit in my house for days on end and stare at the roses in the closet. When I go to chinatown I get drunk and I never get laid. My mind is made up there's going to be trouble. You should have seen me reading Marx. My psychoanalyst thinks I'm perfectly right.

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    ¿Alguien que sepa inglés a un nivel relativamente alto y se aburra estaría dispuesto a corregirme un pequeño texto? Me interesa sobretodo conectar bien las frases porque es para una exposición oral, gramática me defiendo más o menos.

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    Dean Moriarty escribió: Ver mensaje
    Thanks for the useful example Hole That makes it a lot easier. However, in/on/at are not articles but prepositions, and their usage is not taught quite widely in the elementary level.
    Ok, articles and prepositions. It usually pops up in the same lot at school.

    And at least during my times at public high school* here in Madrid, during the ESO (not even Bachillerato) we were taught countless of times the usage of "in/on/at".


    *See, here I could have written also "at a public high school" but it would have had a specifying sense.

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    Hole escribió: Ver mensaje
    They are something that sound really bad when not used properly unless you didn't get through the elementary level.
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    *sounds
    Sorry, it bothered me too much xD I had to say it.

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    Moai.17 escribió: Ver mensaje
    *sounds
    Sorry, it bothered me too much xD I had to say it.
    EDIT: I hadn't understood what you were on about with your correction (it looked completely nonsensical) but then I realized that indeed there was something wrong in my phrase, but it wasn't what you pointed out!! Since I meant to say "they are things that sound really bad". Typo mistake, I dont know why this "something" showed up there. :S
    Última edición hecha por jkhsdjkhsdkj, 11/12/2012 a las 12:58.

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    Then we both are wrong xD

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